Black Crows Octo Birdie
By PTO Team, Based on official specs and professional review consensus · Spec analysis + professional review consensus on this ski

The take
“A swallowtail carving toy for groomer days - quick edge to edge, easy to finish, and honest about not being a race ski.”
Black Crows' Octo Birdie is the women's size run of the Octo, Black Crows' swallowtail carver, and the two are the same ski where it counts: the official materials fields read identically - semi-cap over full ABS sidewalls, a poplar core wrapped in fiberglass, an aluminum insert set in the tail - and the lengths the two models share print the same dimensions, radius and weight. It also helps to know where the official data stops: the spec sheet's weights land at 1450-1550 g per ski, but Black Crows does not publish the profile - light tip rocker over camber is third-party consensus - and there is no official flex number either.
On snow, the Birdie-specific writeups converge on one trait: quick edge-to-edge transitions and arcs that finish without hurry. One test crew describes a ski that is easier to bend than a typical frontside carver, which is exactly why progressing intermediates get on with it quickly. The ceiling is real, though - a review of the unisex Octo warns that a strong skier can ask it to rip turns it cannot fully support, and this is not the ski for locked-down speed. As for the swallowtail, officially it is styling, full stop; one independent review credits it with an easy turn release and a smeared, drifty way to close a carve, and that squares with the ski's character - but Black Crows itself claims nothing mechanical.
Against the obvious rivals, the Octo Birdie reads as the playful pick. One independent comparison finds the Blizzard Black Pearl 82 more composed when speed climbs, and the Nordica Santa Ana 84 more conventional and more planted - the Octo Birdie nimbler than the first, easier to pivot than the second. Inside Black Crows' own line, the Mirus Cor at $999 is the sharper, more demanding version of the same carve-meets-freestyle idea; the Sato Birdie at $739 is the conventional playful piste ski for skiers who do not want a swallowtail; and the Camox Birdie - 97 mm, $849 - is the pick when off-piste days are genuinely on the menu.
Sizing is simple because the radius does not scale: 14 m in all four lengths, 84 mm underfoot in all of them, so choose by height and weight and the turn shape stays put. The official run spans 155.3 to 173.4 cm; PTO stocks the 155.3, 161.2 and 167.2 this season, and a skier who needs the 173.4 can take the unisex Octo at that length - the figures match column for column. The Octo Birdie retails at $949, the same price as the unisex Octo, and ships flat: bindings are a separate purchase, chosen and mounted at the shop bench.
Bindings we'd pair with it
Mount point: Flat ski - bindings are a separate purchase and need mounting. Our pick: Marker Griffon 13 (Black Crows bundle option; PTO stock pairing).
- Marker Griffon 13The bundle option PTO stocks
One of the binding bundles Black Crows offers with this ski on its own product page.
- Salomon Strive 12 GWThe other official bundle option
Also shown as a bundle with the Octo Birdie on the Black Crows page; not a PTO stock item right now.
Black Crows publishes no mount-point or brake-width restriction for the Octo Birdie. Binding choice and mounting are handled by a technician at the shop bench.
Common Questions
- What is the difference between the Black Crows Octo Birdie and the Octo?
- The size run. Construction, materials, radius, weight and price match - we compared the official spec fields line by line - and the two lengths both models offer, 167.2 and 173.4, carry identical numbers. The Birdie runs 155.3-173.4 cm; the unisex Octo runs 167.2-185.4 cm.
- What length Black Crows Octo Birdie should I get?
- Pick by height and weight: with an 84 mm waist and a 14 m radius shared by all four lengths, size does not change the turn shape. This season PTO carries the 155.3, 161.2 and 167.2. If you need the 173.4, the unisex Octo at 173.4 matches it spec for spec.
- Is the Black Crows Octo Birdie good in powder?
- No. Its float is modest at 84 mm, and its official program is groomed runs and their soft edges. For genuine off-piste use in the same family, look at the Camox Birdie at 97 mm or the Atris Birdie at 105 mm.
- Is the Black Crows Octo Birdie good for beginners?
- One independent review pegs the sweet spot at solid intermediate to advanced, with ambitious intermediates progressing fastest; Black Crows' own copy is broader, welcoming 'fanatics and novices alike'. Between the two, side with the review: it is forgiving for a carving ski, not a first-lesson ski.
- What does the swallowtail on the Black Crows Octo Birdie do?
- Officially, nothing mechanical - Black Crows describes the tail shape as being there for style, with an aluminum insert set into it. One independent review says it helps turns release easily and finish with a smear; treat that as opinion, not spec.









