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PTO Review
We skied them. Here's how they stack up.
These skis span 2 categories (All-Mountain, Carving). Scores reflect each ski's intended use — direct comparison across all dimensions may be misleading.
Stance 80 — intermediate to advanced men who spend most days on groomers. Octo — intermediate-to-advanced skiers who love carving groomers and want something lighter and more playful than traditional metal carving skis. Check the radar chart below to see where each one wins.
Each row compares all skis on one dimension. 🏆 marks the highest score.
| Dimension | Stance 80 | Octo |
|---|---|---|
| Carving | 7 | 8🏆 |
| Park | 2🏆 | 2🏆 |
| Playfulness | 5 | 7🏆 |
| Forgiveness | 7🏆 | 6 |
| Stability | 7🏆 | 6 |
| Powder | 3🏆 | 2 |
Intermediate to advanced men who spend most days on groomers. A reliable daily driver for the skier who values consistency over excitement. Great progression ski.
Powder, park, or expert skiers who want to be challenged. For something wider and more versatile, look at the Stance 84 or Nordica Enforcer 94.
Intermediate-to-advanced skiers who love carving groomers and want something lighter and more playful than traditional metal carving skis.
Ice coast carvers who need maximum edge hold. High-speed chargers. Anyone who ventures off-piste.
The Stance 80 is best for intermediate to advanced men who spend most days on groomers. The Octo is best for intermediate-to-advanced skiers who love carving groomers and want something lighter and more playful than traditional. The right choice depends on your primary terrain, ability level, and riding style.
The Salomon Stance 80 scores highest in Stability at 7/10, making it the strongest all-mountain option. It handles groomers, chop, and variable conditions without losing composure, so it's the best single-ski choice for skiers who want one pair for the whole mountain.
The Black Crows Octo leads in Carving with a PTO score of 8/10. Its edge grip on hard snow and groomed runs is the strongest in this comparison.
The Salomon Stance 80 is the most forgiving option with a Forgiveness score of 7/10. It doesn't punish imperfect technique, making it the easiest ski to progress on among these.
Not sure? Ask us.