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PTO Review
We skied them. Here's how they stack up.
These skis span 2 categories (All-Mountain, Carving). Scores reflect each ski's intended use — direct comparison across all dimensions may be misleading.
Mantra 88 — advanced-to-expert groomer skiers who want maximum edge grip and precision in a versatile frontside width. Octo — intermediate-to-advanced skiers who love carving groomers and want something lighter and more playful than traditional metal carving skis. Check the radar chart below to see where each one wins.
Each row compares all skis on one dimension. 🏆 marks the highest score.
| Dimension | Mantra 88 | Octo |
|---|---|---|
| Carving | 9🏆 | 8 |
| Park | 2🏆 | 2🏆 |
| Playfulness | 4 | 7🏆 |
| Forgiveness | 4 | 6🏆 |
| Stability | 9🏆 | 6 |
| Powder | 4🏆 | 2 |
Advanced-to-expert groomer skiers who want maximum edge grip and precision in a versatile frontside width. Former racers who traded gates for free skiing but still want that locked-in feel. Strong skiers at PNW resorts like Mt. Hood who deal with variable hardpack and ice.
Intermediates still developing edge skills — the Mantra will not help you learn. Powder skiers — 88mm sinks in anything over 6 inches. Anyone who wants a forgiving, easy-going ride. For a friendlier 88mm platform, look at the Völkl Kendo 88 or Atomic Maverick 88 CTI.
Intermediate-to-advanced skiers who love carving groomers and want something lighter and more playful than traditional metal carving skis.
Ice coast carvers who need maximum edge hold. High-speed chargers. Anyone who ventures off-piste.
The Mantra 88 is best for advanced-to-expert groomer skiers who want maximum edge grip and precision in a versatile frontside width. The Octo is best for intermediate-to-advanced skiers who love carving groomers and want something lighter and more playful than traditional. The right choice depends on your primary terrain, ability level, and riding style.
The Völkl Mantra 88 scores highest in Stability at 9/10, making it the strongest all-mountain option. It handles groomers, chop, and variable conditions without losing composure, so it's the best single-ski choice for skiers who want one pair for the whole mountain.
The Völkl Mantra 88 leads in Carving with a PTO score of 9/10. Its edge grip on hard snow and groomed runs is the strongest in this comparison.
The Black Crows Octo is the most forgiving option with a Forgiveness score of 6/10. It doesn't punish imperfect technique, making it the easiest ski to progress on among these.
Not sure? Ask us.